Welcome to the board.
I agree with Mystery, read "Crisis of Conscience" by Ray Franz. That will be a step in the right direction to healing
Best,
Paul
today: (aloud rumbling nose) .
me: oh my god...is it armageddon(heat beats starts to sweat).
me: oh it's just a plane...phew.
Welcome to the board.
I agree with Mystery, read "Crisis of Conscience" by Ray Franz. That will be a step in the right direction to healing
Best,
Paul
so while sitting at work, being off task, for hoots and hollars i type my best friend's name in a people search.
i don't really know what compells me, perhaps a hallmark special the night before, or the the fact that tis the season to wonder about old friends...and to wish you could share some time together again.. i have writen about her here in the past.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/36575/1.ashx.
Jo, I'm so happy that you ran into an old friend. That must feel great! I hope it works out for hte both of you. It really sounds like she could use a listening ear.
Best,
Paul
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ok, they have lots of "witnessy" sayings.
but the best is the words they keep making up.. mine is "super-fine apostles" (from an awake a few months ago).
I know these words are not made up, but JW's have given them new meanings.Disfellowshipped...
pratt
Try looking up that work up in the dictionary pratt and then check back in here when you find it
That's one word that really burns me. It's not even a word you can find in an English dictionary, let alone in the Bible.
And we used to give other religions heat on the "Trinity" because that word isn't in the Bible
But here the JW's have completely fabricated a new word in the English language just to carry out their harsh shunning.
"Let's make our punishment sound loving by making up a word that has 'fellowship' as it's root."
Hypocrites
once i left i became about as "worldly" as a person could get.
world that once i left i went totally out of control.
when i left, .
Welcome, and thanks for the wonderful opening post.
You never forget the day you were baptized, right? Well, I'll never forget the day I realized the truth about the "Troof".
I felt like someone had taken a 2x4 and swung it full speed right into my gut. Then as I was bent double-over, gasping for air, I was hit once more with that 2x4 over the back of my head, collapsing me to the ground bleeding and gasping for air. I felt like I has just died and was experiencing the whole surreal event outside of my own body.
No doubt about it, the truth about the Troof was a wicked blow.
Then I went through "Stages of Grief"
1.Denial
2.Anger
3.Bargaining
4.Depression
5.Acceptance
I guess the one thing I do know now is that I'm NOT being influenced by the devil.
I'M NOT! I'm not an evil person! I want my life back and from this point on I AM
taking it back.
...and this is the most beautiful point of coming out of that high-control group:
You are a good person. Your desires and aspirations are not bad. Your every inclination isn't to do evil. You can be a happy, productive member of human society without being a card carrying member of any group.
I look forward to more posts from you. For me, coming here to read and post my thoughts and feelings was very therapeutic. Don't take any rash action just yet such as telling your parents. Just sit back and digest it all [at the very minimum it took months for me to digest it] and let yourself start the healing process. It will take some time to deprogram an entire childhood of being raised in a cult, so just give it time. Cult living is certainly not the best way to start off a young life, but many of us find ways to be better people after we come out of this.
There will always be scars from this, but all of us here have these scars.
Welcome, you are no longer alone.
Best,
Paul
ok, i have a question that popped in my head!.
what is one song you listen to and you love but are to embarrassed to admit it!.
mine is by abba ....fernando!.
What is one song you listen to and you love but are to embarrassed to admit it!Brooke
How about artist?
Barry Manilow.
Hey I grew up on him because my mother played his albums non-stop
...at the copa.Copacabana. The hottest spot north of Havana...
the january 15th wt, "can you control your future" is the prelude to the feb 1st watchtower that contains the 2004 annual service report statistics.. .
in the second study article (pages 15-20), the gb acknowledge the fact that people aren't paying attention to their waffle.. .
there are some surprising statements in the last paragraph, but first, let's highlight some points in this article.... .
Why didn't they stipulate the 'hard things to grasp', such as?Golf
Excellent point! What they chould have printed is this
"Some of Jehover's people find it hard to grasp what parts of blood are acceptable, why the end didn't come in 1994 after 80 years of the 1914 generation had passed, why the anointed numbers keep increasing, among other issues. Well, the answers to those questions can be found in the following paragraph."
Yeah, right!
I guess the GB likes a little mystery with their religion.
i was a witness for over forty years and for most of that time the "new world" "paradise" was not a place i ever wanted to live in.. there are many aspects of life in the 21st century that are great and i wouldn't want to give up.
tv, internet, blues/jazz clubs etc etc.. i may be shallow.
but there were other better reasons millions of people would have gone, wiped out by god: this never sat easy with me.. i told my elder father that i wouldn't want to live five minutes in god's new system, knowing that people i loved, had been killed by god because they didn't love him in the way he wanted.. just telling my father that has made me really wake up to how i really feel about my ex religion.. does a paradise earth as jw's depict appeal to you?
I think the only really honest answer to this question for almost everyone here is, Yes, at least for those who became JWs (as opposed to being born into it). After all, isn't that why we "came in the truth"?
Speak for yourself.
I came into it, not born into it. and yes, the pair-of-dice was quite inticing.
The whole world could be a perfect rosy, kid friendly playground with sweet melons, lions without teeth, and sunflowers as big as my ass, and I still wouldn't want to be there on account of only one reaason.
The people.
i have the feb magazine with the new report in it.
if anyone is interested to know any of the figures then let me know and i will post it over the next half hour or so....
i believe in m&ms and cheesecake.. all hail sweets!
Here! here!
And three pips for Dark Chocolate!
Hip-Hip, Horray!
Hip-Hip, Horray!
Hip-Hip, Horray!
I'm hungry
periodically, we post about what we realize were good fables that were spoken as "gospel".
smurfs running up and down the aisles of the hall is a well known one......any you remember???
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I heard from a Bethel-light while doing temp work this story RE: the 90 Sands residence building in Brooklyn.
The WTS had "worldly" contractors doing the masonry [brick work] on the building. One Friday afternoon the contractor was rushing to get a certain area done and was doing slip-shod work. I guess a Bethel-lite supervisor saw the poor workmanship and asked their contractor to redo the poorly done area. The contractor said that the work was up to "industry standards" and refused to redo the work.
Then, Jehover got real pissed and saw fit to show the worldly contractor what kind of kick-ass god he really is. Over one weekend while the contractor was working on another part of the building, a storm hit. The contractor still had scaffolding setup in the area of the poorly laid brick.
Guess what happened?
Well praise Jehover, the Almighty God of Armies! That storm started swinging the scaffolding around like kindling in a wheelbarrow! Swinging it around and smashing it into the building. In fact, Jehover smashed the scaffolding right into every last poorly laid brick, damaging it to the point that the worldly contractor had to redo all of the brickwork that was in question!
Praise Jah you earthling man!
Praise Jah those that see his mighty works!
Praise Jah from the mountaintops and from the valleys!
PRAISE JAH YOU PEOPLE!!!
hey everybody!!.
just want to say hi and join in on the conversations.
i've been lurking here and trying to log on for months now.
Well holy freakin crap, welcome to our freakin-A board!